Jose Family

Info on this section mainly from the 1891 Census for Perranzabuloe, along with the will of Richard Trenerry. Note that Richard lived and farmed at Rose, and married a lady from the village. Note that I am unable to prove that William and Fanny are indeed the parents of my John. If I can prove that John remarried in the USA to katie Penrose, then I can link them in properly. Per IGI info, father of John at his marriage is noted as William, so it seems likely. Feb 2006. Reviewing this, I think things are uncertain. IGI lists marriage of John to Mary George - which I am aware of. No mention of parents though! If Joseph is the correct person - from 1861 census, giving his fathers name 79,Hendra,1,Joseph Trenerry,Head,M,31,,Blende Miner,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Emily Trenerry,Wife,M,,31,,Truro Cornwall,, ,,,William Trenerry,Son,,9,,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,John Francis Trenerry,Son,,4,,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Samuel Trenerry,Son,,1,,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,James Trenerry,Father,W,57,,Ag Lab,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, 1871 census - 134,Goonhavern,1,Joseph Trenerry,Head,M,41,,Ag Lab,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Emily Trenerry,Wife,M,,40,,Truro Cornwall,, ,,,William H Trenerry,Son,U,18,,Ag Lab,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,John F Trenerry,Son,,14,,Ag Lab,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Samuel Trenerry,,,13,,Ag Lab,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth A Trenerry,Dau,,,6,Scholar,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Joseph Trenerry,Son,,4,,Scholar,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Emily A Trenerry,Dau,,,1,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,James Trenerry,Father,W,70,,Ag Lab,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, Most odd is the 1881census! Searching Cornwall, gives no results for various Joseph and family searches. However, searching Durham!, gives - Joseph Emily Elizabeth A Joseph (son) Emily H and a boarder - Thomas Hooper. Joseph is listed as a coal miner, living at Front Street, North Bedburn, Durham. As is his 16 year old son, Joseph. And the widowed Mr Hooper.

As the marriage certificate for John shows his father as being William, then the census information would be - 1871 - Parish PERRANZABULOE; District 24; Schedule 104 Position Marital Name in Family Status Age TRENERRY, WM Head M 38 TRENERRY, FANNY Wife M 32 TRENERRY, WM H Son - 11 TRENERRY, THOS J Son - 9 TRENERRY, JOHN Son - 7 TRENERRY, RICHD Son - 5 TRENERRY, PHILIP Son - 2 More info on above names: Approximate Birth TRENERRY, WM LEAD MINER 1833 NEWLYN, Cornwall TRENERRY, FANNY - 1839 CUBERT, Cornwall TRENERRY, WM H SCH 1860 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, THOS J SCH 1862 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, JOHN SCH 1864 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, RICHD SCH 1866 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, PHILIP - 1869 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall Also in 1871, another family with head being William and a son called John - Parish PERRANZABULOE; District 21; Schedule 048 Position Marital Name in Family Status Age TRENERRY, WM M Head M 40 TRENERRY, MARY Wife M 41 TRENERRY, ELIZ Daughter U 18 TRENERRY, WM Son U 16 TRENERRY, MARY Daughter - 13 TRENERRY, JANE Daughter - 11 TRENERRY, JOHN Son - 9 TRENERRY, ANN Daughter - 7 TRENERRY, ELLEN Daughter - 5 TRENERRY, JOSEPH Son - 2 More info on above names: Approximate Birth TRENERRY, WM M LEAD MINER 1831 CUBERT, Cornwall TRENERRY, MARY - 1830 S.ERME, Cornwall TRENERRY, ELIZ LEAD ORDRESSR 1853 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, WM LEAD ORDRESSR 1855 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, MARY LEAD ORDRESSR 1858 S.AGNES, Cornwall TRENERRY, JANE SCH 1860 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, JOHN SCH 1862 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, ANN SCH 1864 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, ELLEN - 1866 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall TRENERRY, JOSEPH - 1869 PERRANZABULOE, Cornwall Lets check earlier and later (61 and 81) - 1861 32,Carnkief South,1,William Trenerry,Head,M,30,,Lead Miner,St Cuthbert Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Trenerry,Wife,M,,31,,St Ewe Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth Trenerry,Dau,,,8,Scholar,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,William Trenerry,Son,,6,,Scholar,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Trenerry,Dau,,,3,,St Agnes Cornwall,, ,,,Jane Trenerry,Dau,,,2,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, and the other family - 110,Treworthen,1,William Trenerry,Head,M,29,,Blende Miner,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Fanny Trenerry,Wife,M,,22,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,William Henry Trenerry,Son,,11m,,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, On to 1881 - William TRENERRY Head M Male 48 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Farmer Of 18 Acres Mary TRENERRY Wife M Female 41 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Farmers Wife William H. B. TRENERRY Son Male 7 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Scholar Richard J. B. TRENERRY Son Male 3 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Jabez J. B. TRENERRY Son Male 3 m Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Source Information: Dwelling 5. Little Water Census Place Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341554 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2309 / 95 Page Number 6 and the other lot - William TRENERRY Head M Male 47 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Iron Miner Fanny TRENERRY Wife M Female 42 Cubert, Cornwall, England William H. TRENERRY Son U Male 20 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Iron Mine Laborer Thomas J. TRENERRY Son U Male 18 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Farm Laborer John TRENERRY Son Male 16 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Iron Mine Laborer Walter TRENERRY Son Male 9 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Scholar Albert TRENERRY Son Male 4 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Lavinia TRENERRY Daur Female 2 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Nanny TRENERRY Daur Female 7 m Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Source Information: Dwelling Treworthan Census Place Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341554 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2309 / 102 Page Number 2 And, oddly, another family - Wm. M. TRENERRY Head M Male 51 Cubert, Cornwall, England Lead Miner Mary TRENERRY Wife M Female 52 St Ewe, Cornwall, England Lead Miners Wife Jane TRENERRY Daur U Female 22 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Dressmaker John TRENERRY Son U Male 19 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Lead Miner Ann TRENERRY Daur U Female 17 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Home Domestic Ellen TRENERRY Daur Female 15 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Scholar Martha TRENERRY Daur Female 9 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling Wheal Frances Census Place Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341554 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2309 / 75 Page Number 8 ------------------------------- OK, so 1891 should show no John (as he is now married) - 19,Little Water,1,William Trenerry,Head,M,55,,Farmer,Neither,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Trenerry,Wife,M,,51,,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,William B. Trenerry,Son,S,17,,Farm Labourer,Employed,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Richard B. Trenerry,Son,S,13,,Scholar,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Jabez B. Trenerry,Son,S,10,,Scholar,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Jerves J. B. Trenerry,Son,S,6,,Scholar,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, and - 43,Mount Hill,1,William Trenerry,Head,M,68,,Farm Labourer,Employed,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Fanney Trenerry,Wife,M,,52,,,Cubert Cornwall,, ,,,Albert Trenerry,Son,S,15,,Farm Labourer,Employed,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Lavinia Trenerry,Dau,S,,13,Scholar,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Nanney Trenerry,Dau,S,,11,Scholar,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Richard Trenerry,Boardr,M,25,,Miner,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth Trenerry,Boardr,M,,28,,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, This all seems to point to the same end - William Trenerry, born about 1833 married to Fanny is the correct family. Key points - Firstly, Johns father is William (source is the marriage cert I hold) Secondly, Williams children include Lavinia and Nanny as well as Richard and John. Those names are clearly indicated in the will of Richard Trenerry.

Note that Philip Trenerry married Charlotte Coombe of Hendra Croft 26 April 1896 Fathers - William Trenerry (miner) and Edward Coombe (carpenter)

Review of will of Richard may help. Coupled with (assumed family info) from Kathy Trenery re emigration of some family members. Listed on will (direct family)- Lavinia (sister) Nanny (sister) Nephew William John Nephew Thomas James. Ok, so William John and Thomas James are sons of John Trenerry, brother of Richard. According to my records, John and Mary had 3 girls also. They are not mentioned. Why? 2 possible reasons - first, that Richard only listed male family. This is not correct - he lists his sisters and females from his wifes side. Second reason - and much more likely - John was not the father of the 3 girls. This seems to be backed up by census information. By the 1891 census, John was gone - Mary was living with her mother. The 3 girls were born after Thomas and William - indicating that perhaps John was gone between 1884 or so and 1889. Kathy Trenery does not state when John arrived in the US, but that in the 1890's he was working in the USA. richard may have felt that these 3 girls were not Trenerrys - certainly not his direct relations. Why then does Richard not list his other brothers? I believe the list to be - William H born 1860 Thomas J born 1862 John born 1864 Richard born 1866 Philip born 1869 Walter born 1872 Albert born 1877 Richard obviously we know. John - well, he is suspected of emigration to the USA, so I expect Richard decided against trying to leave money to him there. Thomas emigrated to the US according to Kathy, as did William H and Philip. Walter and Albert however, are not mentioned. Possible they passed away? Or emigrated later without keeping in touch with John? FreeBMD - Deaths Sept qtr 1894 St Columb 5c 57 Albert Trenerry Likely to be the correct person. Leaving Walter only.

Ross (Cubert) marriages note - William Trenerry (miner) , father James (labourer) to Fanny Mitchell daughter of Thomas (labourer) 25/12/1858 Confirmed St Columb 5c 192

IGI lists a christening - 23 September 1832 Newlyn East parents James Trenerry and Ann

An 1841 census search for William, born around the right time gives - Trevellans,1,John Trenerry,55,,Farmer,In county, ,,Fanney Trenerry,,15,,In county, ,,James Trenerry,15,,,In county, ,,Elizabeth Trenerry,,10,,In county, ,,William Trenerry,9,,,In county, ,,John Trenerry,6,,,In county, ,,Jane Eplett,,40,Female Servant,In county, The above is unlikely to be the right William. Much more promising - Hendra Croft,1,James Trenerry,35,,Agricultural Labourer,In county, ,,Nanny Trenerry,,35,,In county, ,,Joseph Trenerry,10,,,In county, ,,William Trenerry,9,,,In county, ,,John Trenerry,6,,,In county, ,,Elizabeth Trenerry,,3,,In county, ,,Ann Trenerry,,1m,,In county,

Looking at the more promising entry in the 1851 census - 246,Rejerra,James Trenerry,Head,M,49,,Ag Lab,St. Allen Cornwall,, ,,Nanny Trenerry,Wife,M,,47,,Newlyn Cornwall,, ,,Joseph Trenerry,Son,U,22,,Lead Miner,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,William Trenerry,Son,U,19,,Lead Miner,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,John Trenerry,Son,U,16,,Lead Miner,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Trenerry,Dau,U,,14,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,Ann Trenerry,Dau,U,,11,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,Fanny Trenerry,Dau,U,,8,,Newlyn Cornwall,,

1901 census RG13/2208 Rejerrah William Trenerry Head M 69 Farmer Perranzabuloe Fanny Trenerry Wife M 63 Cubert Lavinia Trenerry Daur S 22 Perranzabuloe

William and Fanny Trenerry (plus Richard) headstone, at the far top end of Perranzabuloe churchyard. Details - In loving memory of William Trenerry who died at Rejerrah December 12th 1908 aged 76 years also of Fanny, widow of the above who died at (St Dennis?) March 11th? 1909 aged 70 years. Also of Richard, beloved husband of E Trenerry, who died at Rose October 20th, 1924 aged 59 years